The WTMC General Forum http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/list.php?5 Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:24:17 +1200 Phorum 5.2.14 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6373#msg-6373 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6373#msg-6373 -------------------------------------------------------
> I got sent this from LandSAR - they have asked
> that their members support Scott as he's an active
> SAR member and the training he's asking for will
> benefit his SAR activities.. If you haven't
> already voted for someone else please consider
> voting for Scott!
>
> **************
> Hi there, my name is Scott Weatherall; I am an
> active SAR Volunteer in Dunedin both Land and
> Marine. Professionally I work as a Paramedic from
> Dunedin Station.
>
> Each year AMP runs a promotion called “Do Your
> Thing”, which awards scholarships to worthy
> kiwis to help them achieve their dream; I have
> applied this year with the hope to receive some
> financial assistance to help me to do my Advanced
> Paramedic Training (Bachelor of Health Science
> Paramedic) through AUT.
>
> They have two opportunities to be granted a
> scholarship; the first is through a judging panel,
> successful applicants will be announced in late
> August.
>
> The second opportunity and the one I would love
> your assistance with, is through the People’s
> Choice Section. Currently I have just over 900
> votes (thanks to those of you who have already
> voted for me) and have until the end of July
> before voting closes, I am about 3rd or 4th
> overall out of approx 150 National applicants, but
> the current leader is about 3500 votes, so I have
> some catching up to do.
>
> Voting takes about 1 minute.
>
> Thanks in advance, if you would be happy to
> forward this email to your families and friends I
> would be most grateful.
>
> http://doyourthing.co.nz/2010-02128/scott-weathera
> ll
>
> Scott Weatherall I Paramedic
> Search and Rescue Liason - Dunedin
> St John Southern Region]]> Keith Finnie Forum Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:05:56 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6372#msg-6372 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6372#msg-6372 Gail Palmer Forum Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:23:49 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6371#msg-6371 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6371#msg-6371 judy Forum Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:29:31 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6357,6370#msg-6370 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6357,6370#msg-6370 newsletter@wtmc.org.nz.

Thanks, Michael.]]> Michael Forum Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:57:45 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6369#msg-6369 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6369#msg-6369 Mark Cameron Forum Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:03:11 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6364,6368#msg-6368 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6364,6368#msg-6368 RangerRick Forum Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:13:56 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6366,6367#msg-6367 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6366,6367#msg-6367 sharron Forum Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:46:34 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6366,6366#msg-6366 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6366,6366#msg-6366 Amanda Forum Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:48:01 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6365#msg-6365 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6365#msg-6365

http://doyourthing.co.nz/2010-02128/scott-weatherall]]> Jenny Forum Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:05:36 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6364,6364#msg-6364 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6364,6364#msg-6364
I have recently developed a network for bushcraft in NZ, a great passion of mine and of many other kiwis. www.bushcraft.org.nz

We have a big competition going at the moment to help spread the word with a Bushcraft Prizepack up for grabs, with an entry everytime you tell a friend who signs up.

http://bushcraft.org.nz/profiles/blogs/armyshopconz-bushcraft?xg_source=activity

At heart we are just a bunch of kiwis who enjoy learning to be self sufficient in the bush and engaging in the natural world. Anyone who enjoys the outdoors will love bushcraft, so please forward this email to your members if at all possible.]]> Jenny Forum Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:04:20 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6363#msg-6363 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6363#msg-6363 Glen Miller Forum Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:45:53 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6362#msg-6362 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6362,6362#msg-6362
**************
Hi there, my name is Scott Weatherall; I am an active SAR Volunteer in Dunedin both Land and Marine. Professionally I work as a Paramedic from Dunedin Station.

Each year AMP runs a promotion called “Do Your Thing”, which awards scholarships to worthy kiwis to help them achieve their dream; I have applied this year with the hope to receive some financial assistance to help me to do my Advanced Paramedic Training (Bachelor of Health Science Paramedic) through AUT.

They have two opportunities to be granted a scholarship; the first is through a judging panel, successful applicants will be announced in late August.

The second opportunity and the one I would love your assistance with, is through the People’s Choice Section. Currently I have just over 900 votes (thanks to those of you who have already voted for me) and have until the end of July before voting closes, I am about 3rd or 4th overall out of approx 150 National applicants, but the current leader is about 3500 votes, so I have some catching up to do.

Voting takes about 1 minute.

Thanks in advance, if you would be happy to forward this email to your families and friends I would be most grateful.

http://doyourthing.co.nz/2010-02128/scott-weatherall

Scott Weatherall I Paramedic
Search and Rescue Liason - Dunedin
St John Southern Region]]> Jenny Forum Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:19:43 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6361,6361#msg-6361 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6361,6361#msg-6361 Amanda Forum Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:40:49 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6360,6360#msg-6360 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6360,6360#msg-6360
Venue = MacLaurin Lecture Theatre (MCLT 102) Vic Uni, Kelburn Camus

Cost = $15 for NZAC members otherwise $20 tickets on sale at Bivouac or NZAC club nites.

John climbs mountains, treks through the Aussie desert, kayaks etc. Should be a good talk.]]> sharron Forum Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:36:39 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6358,6359#msg-6359 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6358,6359#msg-6359
Politics the main barrier to Coromandel mining - expert: http://www.guide2.co.nz/politics/news/politics-the-main-barrier-to-coromandel-mining-expert/11/16051

Geologist challenges 'keyhole' mining claims: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10642591]]> Mike Forum Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:13:57 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6358,6358#msg-6358 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6358,6358#msg-6358 http://www.otago.ac.nz/wellingtoncityoffice/WLS.html

It's 6pm at Science House (11 Turnbull Street), so you should still be able to get to the club meeting.

======

Wednesday 21 July 6:00pm: Professor Dave Craw, Geology Deptartment, Otago University.

"Busting the environmental myths; putting science into the mining debate"

New Zealand is geologically favourable for gold, iron and coal deposits. As an experienced geologist and researcher on the environmental effects of mining, Professor Craw shows how assessing the damaging effects of past mining activity helps with prediction of the effects of modern mining. He argues that, whichever way the mining debate goes, it needs to be informed with real environmental science.]]> Mike Forum Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:07:24 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6357,6357#msg-6357 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6357,6357#msg-6357 newsletter@wtmc.org.nz is currently 'Out of Order'. We are working on this and it will hopefully be fixed soon. I will post another message when it has been fixed.

In the meantime please send your newsletter contributions to mike.lightbourne@mail.com. The deadline for the next issue is Friday 23 July.

From your Newsletter Editor.]]> Michael Forum Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:16:38 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6356,6356#msg-6356 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6356,6356#msg-6356
The schedule runs from September to the end of January. If you're a member, please have a think about leading one or two trips. If you'd like to buddy up with someone more experienced, just drop me an email and that can easily be arranged.

Check out and edit the online version at https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AusyJZSqddHXdGt5cVBoRFlMbDM0YTkzQm5aS2tLTGc&authkey=CJm459QB&hl=en#gid=0

Amanda
chiefguide@wtmc.org.nz]]> Amanda Forum Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:24:37 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6353,6355#msg-6355 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6353,6355#msg-6355
Could you please give some details about the boots (Makalus or Islands)? Are they a UK size 9?

Many Thanks
Eeuwe]]> Eeuwe Schuckard Forum Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:31:18 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6354,6354#msg-6354 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6354,6354#msg-6354
I'm involved in organising a search and rescue exercise this weekend. The exercise is for search managers (ie no one actually out in the bush getting wet), but I need some help...

..I need 5 people available to interview via the phone on Saturday 17 July, and a few people who can come in and be interviewed face to face.

The catch: you must have decent local knowledge of the Whangahuia Range (Upper Ruahines) East of Mangaweka. For the face to face stuff, you must be prepared to turn up to RNZAF Ohakea for a couple of hours on the Saturday.

Please email or text me (021 270 3852) if you are interested in helping out.


Ross Browne
National Training Coordinator
New Zealand Land Search & Rescue Inc.
P O Box 25-362, Wellington 6146.
Level 2, 276 Lambton Quay, Wellington

Ph: 04 473 6108
Mob: 021 270 3852
Fax: +64 4 473 6109]]> Ross Browne Forum Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:22:10 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6353,6353#msg-6353 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6353,6353#msg-6353 Foss Leach Forum Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:32:30 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6349,6352#msg-6352 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6349,6352#msg-6352 Eamonn Forum Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:01:38 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6351,6351#msg-6351 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6351,6351#msg-6351
Well done Stuart! All that training in the Tararuas followed by the acclimatisation teaching English in France is really starting to pay off.]]> sharron Forum Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:14:23 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6350,6350#msg-6350 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6350,6350#msg-6350 Amanda Forum Wed, 07 Jul 2010 08:39:12 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6349,6349#msg-6349 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6349,6349#msg-6349
First of all, we've got a collection of back issues of the Sierra Club bulletin from 1966 to 1978. It's incomplete: there are seventy-two of the thin US letter-sized magazines, each with lovely photographs and trip reports from the US and abroad. There are also articles on conservation since the club is one of the oldest such groups, founded by the famous naturalist John Muir.

Next, we have twenty-four copies of The Canterbury Mountaineer. First issue is 1946-1947 (#16), last one is 1971-1972 (#41). There are two copies of the '53/'54 issue, so no fighting, please! Each one has plenty of trip reports from south island trips including photos and hand-drawn maps. There are nice panoramas with all the peaks labelled in some of them too.

Almost lastly come eight journals from the Mountain Club of South Africa, dating from 1951 to 1970. Trip reports are mainly from Africa. Some photos have routes marked on them and there's the odd hand-drawn map in there too.

Lastly is something I didn't quite intend on taking: a few old issues of our journal. I have one from 1968 and two from 1981. The 1981 ones have a bit on ski touring and Vanda Station in Antarctica if anyone'd be interested in that...

Post a reply if you want anything. Will put the remainder on the freecycle network and trademe. If that fails I might ask for some volunteers to help me distribute them around the hut network. Should make an interesting diversion for people who don't take their own reading material!]]> Eamonn Forum Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:35:44 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6348,6348#msg-6348 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6348,6348#msg-6348
FYI - I have this week changed jobs, so please do not email me at the APX or Atlantic email address from now on. Please send any emails for me to transport@wtmc.org.nz

Thanks,

Gareth]]> Gareth Morton Forum Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:22:15 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6347,6347#msg-6347 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6347,6347#msg-6347
The ball, a black tie "do", is being held in the Long Room of the Basin Reserve on Saturday 21st August. Ticket price includes a sit down meal and entertainment from local band "Jonny and the Dreamboats".

The event is open to all - not just WTMC members. It will be a fun night so please come and join us!

Any profits we make will go go Wellington Search and Rescue.

TICKETS:

Early bird price (until the 16th July): $80 each or $75 each for 2 or more
Standard price (after 16th July) : $90 each

Tickets can be bought from Donna at club meetings on a wednesday night

PAYMENT can be made by giving Donna a cheque at club night (or post to WTMC, PO Box 5068, Lambton Quay, Wellington)

or

by depositing money into the club bank account 06-0582-0013409-00 (please use your name and "Ball" as a reference).

IF YOU CAN"T MAKE IT TO A CLUB NIGHT, then you can email Donna at (social (at) wtmc.org.nz)]]> Jenny Forum Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:07:57 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6346,6346#msg-6346 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6346,6346#msg-6346
Would anyone out there who doesn't collect FMC Bulletins be willing to part with their copy of bulletin number 178? I think it's December 2009 or thereabouts.

I like to collect them for future reference, but my copy of #178 drowned in a tent about 7 months ago during an untimely encounter with excessive precipitation.

Thanks.
Mike.]]> Mike Forum Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:25:25 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6343,6345#msg-6345 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6343,6345#msg-6345
The actual study is at http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/publishahead/Trekking_Poles_Reduce_Exercise_Induced_Muscle.99185.aspx but a journal subscription's required, so it's not visible online (unless you happen to be accessing from an organisation the subscribes to the "Official Journal of the American College of Sports Medicine".]]> Mike Forum Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:29:11 +1200 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6343,6344#msg-6344 http://www.wtmc.org.nz/forum/read.php?5,6343,6344#msg-6344
The cited researcher (Dr Glyn Howatson) has a website at http://www.northumbria.ac.uk/sd/academic/psychsport/ses/sportstaff/GlynHowatson/ but there's no reference to a study on trekking poles that I can see with a quick scan.

All of this aside, I guess I was wondering what effort was made to rule out muscular bias, which is a term I made up because it sounds like what I think I mean. eg. If you take someone who's used to using poles, then tell them to walk up a mountain without them, they might walk with a technique that's less efficient without poles, and the article's unclear about how people were selected. Could there also be a placebo effect involved? eg. Give someone a couple of poles and let them walk away with an impression that makes them more confident, and their body might react differently to that of someone who already thinks they're disadvantaged without the poles. The article mentions they recorded *perceived* exertion rates, which possibly isn't completely the same as actual exertion rates (but maybe it's close), and it might be affected by what people think they should be feeling.

Muscle damage and function were measured at 24, 48 and 72 hour intervals after the experiment, but the article isn't specific about how the subjects were controlled between those measurements. Supposedly they were all physically active, so what's to say some didn't go out and do something randomly active (or randomly inactive) the next day? Did the people using the poles have less muscle damage because they walked at half the pace of everyone else?

So many questions. I'm just being nitpicky 'cos I'm annoyed at them not actually referencing the study, which would be far more authoritative, and instead presenting it like a trekking pole commercial. :)

One study that could be interesting would be to compare experienced people in similar environments who regularly use poles with people who regularly don't, and see if there's any discernible difference in muscle damage, etc. If there isn't, it might imply that people gravitate towards what suits them best.]]> Mike Forum Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:17:20 +1200